The great interview of Jordan Bardella
Do you think that the European Union as you describe it can be reformed? In short, which are the instances to be deleted and those whose mode of operation must be reviewed?
As I said to Emmanuel Macron in the hemicycle a few weeks ago, their Europe is 60 years old, ours is 3000. Unlike France, the European Union as it exists today is an artificial construct kept alive by federalists increasingly disavowed by their people. All attempts to relaunch their project of a federal Europe are doomed to failure. Take the Conference on the Future of Europe, which is a fiasco and yet the conclusions were: ever more Europe, ever less nation. In my view, Europe will have to be reformed no longer starting from the Commission, but from the sovereign States which derive their legitimacy from the democratic process. Depending on their interests, we can consider strategic cooperation.
What are the areas of activity in which this cooperation could bring added value? And how to implement it?
A certain number of fields deserve that we pool our talents, not to sell off our secrets and industrial know-how to other countries, but to add up skills. Macron thought he wanted to move forward on the Future Air Combat System (SCAF), with Germany in particular, but also Spain. As too often in our relations with our German neighbours, France finds itself the loser. In the same way, the idea of a unified European defence, when we sometimes have divergent interests, is not desirable. On the other hand, we can reflect together on how to defend our borders. Frontex must no longer be a reception agency for migrants, but, on the contrary, Europe must do everything to prevent them from entering its territory.
Things have not changed since the migration crisis of 2015 and the immigrationist ideology has not been defeated…
On the contrary. The Marrakech Pact was a very clear signal of the will of the leaders to encourage migratory flows. In the process, the Migration Pact of the European Union, designed out of sight, increasingly imposes the idea that migration would be part of the destiny of Europe. This is further proof that the elites are « above ground » and disconnected from reality, because, at the end of the day, it is the French, from Clermont-Ferrand or Briançon, but also the Estonian or the Flemish who will see their way of life turned upside down.
In an authoritarian way, the French government presented a plan for the distribution of migrants a year ago. The countries that are hostile to us have understood that migrations are our Achilles’ heel and are imposing migratory blackmail on our peoples.
Interview published by the Patriots for Europe Foundation